We Watch Comic Book Trailers: Captain America – Civil War

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Thomas Hamilton: HELL. YES.

 R-Son: YES LAWD!

 Jd Korejko: I think for a first trailer, it looks a lot like BUCKY THE MOVIE. But nothing in the trailer really spoke to me other than Stark’s “So Was I”

That hit me, hard. But otherwise it’s “Hey, here’s more Marvel stuff that you love” so I’m in.

 Tom Moore III: Awesome in every way that something can be awesome.

 Thomas Hamilton: If Apocalypse is Godfather III, This might be part I.

 R-Son: Stop.

Thomas Hamilton: With the Dark Knight being part 2, that is.

R-Son: I hate the Godfather so…

Thomas Hamilton: What?

 Tom Moore III: Can I just add that I am so relieved to have cool black heroes? Like, the Falcon is pretty lame.

Thomas Hamilton: What?

Jd Korejko: Lol

Tom Moore III: The Falcon is lame.

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R-Son: No he’s not!

Jd Korejko: I’m stoked as hell for Black Panther.

Tom Moore III: I’m going into a life or death battle, I don’t want the Falcon. Yay. He can fly. He got beat by Ant-Man.

Jd Korejko: Ooooooo snap.

 Thomas Hamilton: The character isn’t typically good, but Anthony Mackie is doing a great job.

 Tom Moore III: He was lame in the comics. Name one great Falcon moment in a comic.

I like Mackie. But he’s just Caps pal.

 R-Son: Falcon saves the world. Cap, volume 36 or whatever, issue 24

 Tom Moore III: War Machine has more potential. But Black panther is something completely different.

 R-Son: Black Panther looks epic.

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Thomas Hamilton: Also, I would argue that besides Civil War, Cap is a bit lacking in that department too.

 Tom Moore III: No, Cap has established himself as the guy who hands out beatings

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R-Son: Cap is lacking in what department?

Thomas Hamilton: His story lines were never amazing in the comics, at least not to me.

 R-Son: WHAT? Really? That blows my mind

 Thomas Hamilton: I’m not saying he doesn’t have any, I just don’t think he has a lot.

 Jd Korejko: Sorry, I was never a Cap guy either. Or an Avengers guy, really, until Bendis came along. I’m a heathen, I know

 Tom Moore III: What? Cap is amazing.

 Jd Korejko: Yeah! That time he was a …..wolf…! I have grown to appreciate him though.

 

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We don’t talk about Capwolf.

Thomas Hamilton: Cap is a great character, not many compelling story lines. Sorry.

 Tom Moore III: I knew you would bring up Capwolf. But around that time was the whole John Walker storyline which was old school gold.

 Jd Korejko: Oh man! John Walker! That story was the STUFF. I forgot about that. The story, the art. That was awesome.

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We Watch Comic Book Trailers: X-Men: Apocalypse

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Tom Moore III: Staying with Fox…

Jd Korejko: Ohhhhh. This one. Hmmm.

R-Son the Voice of Reason: Apocalypse looks great!

Jd Korejko: I want to be excited for this.

Tom Moore III: Umm.

R-Son the Voice of Reason: The part when he’s a giant? COOL!

Tom Moore III: The best bit.

Jd Korejko: I wasn’t as into the last one either. It had some great stuff, but I feel like these movies are delivering diminishing returns for me. And showing bald Prof X at the end? That’s the big dramatic reveal?

I do love that we worked in a whole new cast to take over for the older actors though, I love resets like that.

Tom Moore III: Days of Future Past was only good because it erased the plot of X3. I have never seen a superhero movie without a feel good moment.

Jd Korejko: Yeah! That was the biggest moment for me. Not to say that the movie was BAD. It was just fine.

Tom Moore III: Apocalypse feels all wrong. He looks better than the Power Ranger villain we saw in the still photos, but this is not the guy that Walt Simonson designed.

R-Son the Voice of Reason: I’ve seen every X movie and I still say the biggest flaw was the Darwin death.

Jd Korejko: I’m holding off judgement of his look until I see how he looks in the final film.

R-Son the Voice of Reason: Been waiting for him to show up again.

Jd Korejko: Darwin’s death MADE NO SENSE. lol

R-Son the Voice of Reason: Yes it did….black dude…

Jd Korejko: Hey, this guy adapts to EVERYTHING except, I guess this one thing, because….reasons.”

“because ….black.”

R-Son the Voice of Reason: Yep!

Tom Moore III: (I forgot completely about First Class)

Jd Korejko: Yeah, it’s getting to the point that they are pumping out so many X films that they are getting jumbled in my brain-meats.

Tom Moore III: I was trying to purge my mind from January Jones and Zoe Kravitz stinking up Michael Fassbender’s film

Jd Korejko: First Class was probably my favorite, next to X2

Tom Moore III: This is the Godfather III of superhero movies.

R-Son the Voice of Reason: The thing I liked about the X movies is that the weren’t trying to do exact stories.

Jd Korejko: Awwww man. Jan Jones. Yikes. What a mess.

R-Son the Voice of Reason: Who was she?

Jd Korejko: She was Emma Frost.

Do you think other superhero films are trying to do exact stories? (Besides Watchmen, and the like?)

Tom Moore III: I think the best films capture the spirit of the comic, like Hellboy. There is so much time between each panel and page in a comic, I don’t think the story can translate to other mediums if you do it in a slavish way.

Jd Korejko: I think that’s the best way to do it. Capture the spirit. But that seems to be what is most upsetting to the fanboy crowds. “Aw man they changed XY and Z about that story I ready 20 years ago! That’s not right!”

R-Son the Voice of Reason: I think the MCU is trying enough. And at the same time trying to make EVERYTHING into a commercial for the movies

Tom Moore III: I think fans are scared. It’s not always changing the story, it’s about respecting the original property, and changes could potentially be an indication that the studio doesn’t care. I know why they freak out.

Jd Korejko: Oh, I know WHY. I just don’t approve. And if the studio captures the spirit of the thing than changing the story doesn’t bother me.

Tom Moore III: You do tend to make the movie in your head. Like my version of Apocalypse is so overwhelming no one would think of attacking him, as opposed to this blue guy they have now. Oscar Issac is a good actor though.

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No, actually I described the comic book version pretty well. The little guy? That’s THOR.

R-Son the Voice of Reason: So when DIDN’T the spirit get captured?

Tom Moore III: Pretty much anything with Alan Moore’s name on it, lol

R-Son the Voice of Reason: Bull! Watchmen was nailed!

Jd Korejko: How about THE SPIRIT? The spirit of The Spirit, lol.

Tom Moore III: Oh God, The Spirit.

Thomas Hamilton: The Spirit was the one movie Tom and I agreed was trash.

Jd Korejko: I don’t know, I liked Watchmen a lot. Not so much, LXG though

Tom Moore III: From Hell? Yikes.

Thomas Hamilton: Eh … LXG was worse than that. I also hated Watchmen.

R-Son the Voice of Reason: The more you mess with his stuff the better as far as I’m concerned. Fuck Alan Moore

Tom Moore III: What?

Thomas Hamilton: This might get hate, bit I thought V for Vendetta wasn’t that bad.

Tom Moore III: I saw it in the theater and walked out.

Jd Korejko: Alan Moore doesn’t like movies of his stuff because they need more rape.

R-Son the Voice of Reason: I liked V

Jd Korejko: Oh I loved V too

Tom Moore III: Oh God, the rape thing.

R-Son the Voice of Reason: Alan Moore can eat a bag of moose dicks…

Jd Korejko: That’s my reaction to Alan Moore as well. “Oh God, The Rape Thing”

Thomas Hamilton: Didn’t Tom sawyer get raped in LXG? The comic I mean. On some Oz shit, if I recall.

Tom Moore III: Where would one get a bag of – Randy what do you have against Alan Moore?

@Tom, Tom Sawyer wasn’t in the comic, they added an American because they thought no one would root for a British team.

R-Son the Voice of Reason: I think he’s overrated as fuck and a tremendous douchebag.

Tom Moore III: Invisible man got raped by Mr. Hyde. Rape has come up a few times in Moore’s oeuvre, but it’s always handled pretty well.

Thomas Hamilton: Pretty sure someone got raped in something. That’s just how he gets down.

Tom Moore III: Well that conversation took a turn.

We Watch Comic Book Trailers: Deadpool

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Tom Moore III: Let’s start with something easy. Deadpool.

Out of all the properties Fox has screwed up, THIS is the thing they seem to get right. A couple of the trailers have hinted at a little bit of heart too, which keeps Deadpool from being tedious.

R-Son: It’s not easy to screw up. Deadpool makes bad jokes and shoots/stabs stuff. The end

Tom Moore III: They screwed up the Punisher though. Its Fox.

Jd Korejko: They screwed up the Punisher SEVERAL times.

I think Deadpool looks pretty fun, and I’m not even a Deadpool guy. I usually find his character to be annoying

R-Son: Punisher wasn’t bad. The Thomas Jane one was close enough to Welcome Back, Frank to be good.

The rest, eh.

Tom Moore III (at Jd): Same here. And they’re redeeming Ryan Reynolds. Extra points for the Green Lantern joke.

(at Randy) I have a soft spot for War Zone, it’s the only one that delivered on the action and the character.

Jd Korejko: There was solid stuff in the last two Punisher movies…if you took them both and smoothed them together, you’d have one good one.

Tom Moore III: I can see that. Ray Stevenson was perfect.

Jd Korejko: Aw see, I think the Green Lantern joke fell flat, but I do like that he’s making jokes that break the fourth wall!

Yeah, Ray Stevenson was in his own movie, that sadly, none of the other actors showed up for.

R-Son: I still say GL wasn’t as bad as everyone else thought.

Jd Korejko: GL had its moments. But again, not enough of them.

Tom Moore III: I can think of a better way to spend 300 million.

Jd Korejko: lol, RIGHT?

R-Son: They just went too far too fast.

Tom Moore III: Good point. Had they built to the wars, and then maybe Black Lanterns-

Jd Korejko: And a giant yellow fart cloud as the enemy didn’t really work as well as they hoped.

But Ryan Reynolds I thought made a perfect Hal Jordan, just as he’s a perfect Wade Wilson.

R-Son: Make it a Hector Hammond/fall of Sinestro movie and it works.

Tom Moore III: Ryan Reynolds keeps getting wasted.

Jd Korejko: I don’t think Reynolds is ever the problem, in any of the bad films he’s been in.

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R-Son: That’s for sure

Tom Moore III: Randy is right too. And I agree, I think they use Ryan to bail out a sinking movie and not vice versa.

We Watch Comic Book Trailers Pt. 1

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Of course, I forgot to include the movie that I wanted to see. Smh

2016 is going to be another big year for comic book movies (which is okay with me) but fanbases are conflicted about those movies. So I sought out a range of opinions from other people more than qualified to offer a very educated opinion on the trailers AND on comics and then we argued like teenagers trapped on a long car ride.

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Black Elvis

The first thing people notice me about anywhere I’ve lived is how many comics I have. I have a larger collection than anyone I know. If this place ever catches fire its going to be a four alarmer for the whole block.

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Of course, I included my writing partner Thomas Hamilton, mostly because he can see when I’m writing a draft and its awkward to explain why I’m not including him on a panel and because we’re still too burned out to do socially conscious content.

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Randy

We included R-Son the Voice of Reason who is overqualified to chime in. He’s Super Tribble of the Black Tribbles who have made huge contributions to Philadelphia and geek culture. (You need to check them out.) Also he’s been a long-time comic book shop employee/manager and he’s part of an exciting new venture in Amalgam Comics.

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JD

JD Korejko runs Jd’s Hero Complex after quite a few years working elsewhere in a comic shop. Also, he is a gifted comic artist and illustrator and a Tom and Tom Affirmative Action hire. (Stinking Obama.) He also runs a rather popular comic book podcast Poptards which runs on Aint it Cool News, a site that people actually visit.

Next…we do the trailers.

Suicide Squad Issue Twelve

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Under heavy fire, Nightshade, Speedy and June Moone bail out of Sheba.

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Uzis versus a bow and arrow. Hmmm. Better work fast ladies. Sadly, I had to omit some great Black Orchid stuff for pacing, but things fall apart for Boomerang and the gang.

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Thankfully, Black Orchid returns and she’s ready to throw down. Also this page illustrates something the movie is going to have to get right, Boomerang is often presented as a joke…but he is a killer and quite good at it.

You know who else is good at what she does? Nightshade. Again, where most books can only manage one capable female at best, Ostrander gives you plenty in this title, and this is one of many comics that are ignored when we characterize gender and roles in comics.

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After dispatching the guards, Nightshade calls the Enchantress. We know where this is going, right?

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This is resolved by an absolute throwdown, of which I included the end.

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While Nightshade is able to pull the Enchantress from the edge, no one is there to stop Vixen.

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The mission complete, they head back to Belle Reve only to find out that Rick Flag’s mission with the Doom Patrol didn’t go so good. They aren’t called the DOOM Patrol for nothing after all.

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In another comic, this mission would be a success. But in a comic with silly costumes and the occasionally far out plot, the next two pages are a shock to the system.

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Suicide Squad Issue Eleven

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This issue has guest stars Vixen and former drug-addicted Green Arrow sidekick Speedy. Speedy was part of a great arc, and then no one knew what to do with him afterwards.

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Vixen is a highly sought after model and when the issue begins she is taking a break at work, having left the superhero game.

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There is a quick rundown of her origin and what’s she been doing and then-

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It turns out that there was a drug transaction being done across the water and since the photographer could have captured some of it, they decided to wipe everyone out.

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Realizing that prison is pointless (this is decades before El Chapo, mind you) they come up with solution of their own.

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Part of the plan is to have Captain Boomerang take Vixen and Black Orchid and pose as another dealer with two prostitutes. As humiliating as being a hooker is for Vixen its still a step up from Justice League Detroit.

Meanwhile a panicked Derek Tolliver reaches out for a political ally in Joe Cray.

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Elsewhere Nightshade and Speedy bond over their mixed emotions on their job and their terrible costumes. June Moone has been cooped up in Belle Reve and she puts the move on Briscoe.

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Briscoe’s daughter died and Sheba is a VERY unhealthy replacement. Then again, it is handy to have an attack helicopter that can respond remotely to complex commands.

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Although initially ambushed and outnumbered, Sheba gets the rest of the team out of trouble. But all the noise blows the timing of the mission.

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The bad news is the drug lord has jets.

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And muscular guards with no shirts, headbands and camouflage pants. Is this a David DeCoteau movie? What is the advantage of not wearing full-body camouflage if it actually concealed you? Just wearing the pants would make it look like your upper body was floating around with no support like a Pacman ghost.

Eh, it was the 80’s. Also another panel from that Speedy arc. Depressing that Neal Adams and Dick Giordano’s work here is stronger than than anything we’ve seen yet from Suicide Squad, even though its 15 years later.

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Suicide Squad Issue Ten

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We already had the event comics. Now its time to do the other time-honored tradition of having a really popular comic character guest star in your book. But even though Batman appears in this book, the most important thing that happens is the addition of Father Craemer, a character that Ostrander created and used well (most notably in the Spectre run).

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Its worth noting although I skip pages, Suicide Squad focuses on all of the staff, which is something that subsequent books didn’t get right. This issue also introduces Duchess, and we have to pretend we don’t know who she is. (She is clearly Lashina)

Meanwhile, Waller explains why she never liked Rick Flag, and Flo expresses a desire to participate in missions…mostly because she likes Bronze Tiger.

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Mark Shaw decides to go private and become the Manhunter again, and Flag is too traumatized to join him. Meanwhile a prisoner they are transporting to Gotham escapes rather easily. I think you know where this is going.

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Batman easily slips around and hacks their main computer.

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Not the most essential page but I rarely give artist Luke McDonnell any credit, and he preserves the idea of Batman as a shape, almost like Michael Myers for a lot of this book, and it really works.

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Belle Reve is not set up for an A-lister. Batman carves through the guard, and although Duchess gives him some trouble initially, this is the Batman we’re talking about.

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Batman beats the rest of the Squad that’s available until its just a standoff with Waller.

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This is the part that’s hard.

There’s a brilliant bit where Batman explains to Deadshot that Deadshot is incapable of killing him. Its not that Deadshot is missing his shots on Batman, its a subconscious hitch, which explains all the times a master sniper missed Batman when he was waiting to ambush him.

But its followed by a REALLY stupid bit, where Waller explains that Batman revealed his alias, his relationship with the Gotham police – oh and he put his fingerprints on everything while he was in his cell.

And Batman basically goes – ‘aw shucks, I didn’t think about ANY of that,’ and gives the disc back. That’s what happens. Seriously. The whole ending of this comic is predicated on Batman being an idiot. But then Flag shows Waller some fire.

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Now Waller has her team leader.

Suicide Squad Issue Nine

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We’re back!

Sometimes the true test of a comic book writer is how they negotiate the dreaded crossover event. The event at the time was Millennium, which is where everyone tangled with the Manhunters, the intergalactic police force of robots that preceded the Green Lantern Corps.

Not a bad idea but the Manhunters looked really stupid. Why would a robot need blue underwear, and metal blue underwear at that.

So Slipknot, Boomerang, Bronze Tiger, Deadshot, Rick Flag, Karin Grace, and Mark Shaw in that stupid pirate getup go to Manhunter temple to deliver a bomb. Slipknot immediately starts thinking about getting out of it, since you can’t fight a robot with a rope.

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The bomb is filled with xyzedium, an element only slightly better named than unobtanium. And Rick Flag has a bit of information no one else does.

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Good thing they ran into Captain Atom, eh? The Squad also finds out that they don’t match up well with killer robots.

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By the time they figure out how to fight the Manhunters, Bronze Tiger goes down.

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And Slipknot finds out you should NEVER trust Captain Boomerang.

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While Slipknot lays suffering, a mysterious (more on this at some point) woman shows up.

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Shaw and Flag go into the temple with the bomb, and that’s when Flag finally realizes that the Privateer genuinely hates the Manhunters and can be trusted. Suddenly Karin appears, hanging from a cliff face. Do they save her or keep going with the bomb?

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Instead of wondering how Karin ended up on a cliff, Flag immediately has a meltdown.

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Karin betrays him, and explains that she is a Manhunter mole who fell in love with Mark Shaw. Except…

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That’s right. Karin Grace fell in love with a Manhunter robot. The robot quickly takes down Flag and Shaw and gives the coup de grace to Karin.

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And because this ties in to an event, something we don’t know about happens somewhere we can’t see that causes all the robots to fall apart at the same time. In all fairness, event comics were only a bit over two years old, so they hadn’t gotten the hang of it yet, but this is pretty lousy.

With her life ruined Karin decides to take the high road.

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By the time Flag wakes up – its over. And the Squad has another casualty.

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12 Playstation Games That I Really Miss – Pt 2

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SOCOM II: US Navy Seals

Socom forces you to think tactically because numbers are not on your side, and the weapons you choose have decided advantages and disadvantages. But there are a lot of squad-based commands, and this game has you globe trotting to break things up. I don’t know a lot about how games are made, but the missions are a masterpiece of layout, variety, story-telling and tension as the game progresses. I don’t know if any other game has done this better.

Silent Hill 2

Being outside of the gamer world, I did not know this game’s reputation until I looked it up. I do know that as a writer, the horror I saw in my head mostly was about a guy and a flashlight and a lot of darkness dealing with – something.

Silent Hill 2 is that game.

There are a lot of unnerving touches in Silent Hill 2, but mostly you are a guy in an abandoned town without a lot of resources dealing with bizarre and unclassifiable monsters that come when you are least prepared from them. This is everything they’ve said about it, a masterpiece that has not been repeated for some reason.

Grand Theft Auto: Vice City

This hits a few weaknesses and I have more affection for this game than any other in the series. Playing as hitman Tommy Vercetti, you basically reenact the plot of Scarface (while taking elements of a lot of other movies, of course). But it looks like a Michael Mann film, it has the best soundtrack of the series, and aside from a couple tough missions to play (the mini helicopter – ugh!) the gameplay and plot are fantastic. It all adds up to a sort of charm that I haven’t seen replicated in GTA after that.

Red Dead Revolver

Speaking of charming, Red Dead Revolver is the game that Capcom started and Rockstar finished. Capcom saw it as a ‘Weird West’ game and Rockstar liked the violent Clint Eastwood style of western. The result is a game with a huge sense of humor, tremendous imagination, fun gameplay, colorful and distinct characters.

You play a grand story from multiple perspectives and each character has their own special moves. I don’t even like westerns that much and I COULD NOT stop playing this game, there were so much variation on missions, and such an interesting plot that I was completely engaged.

Rockstar released Red Dead Redemption on their own, which obviously is several levels above in almost every way. But its sober tone doesn’t match the frenzied fun of the original.

Tom Clancy: Splinter Cell

There are plenty of shoot-em-ups out there. Splinter Cell is all about doing missions quietly and it creates a tension that’s rare in video games. You have almost no ammo, but you have other diverse weapons, (not all of them lethal) and a great set of skills that the game prefers you use.

This was the first of a good franchise, but it still stands as exceptional.

The Thing

John Carpenter’s The Thing is one of my textbook perfect movies. Very free movies have captured tension, paranoia, and horror like it. Usually tie-in games suck. The Thing didn’t.

I don’t know another game that created as much anxiety through its gameplay as The Thing. Its simple. You’re a Special Forces operative in the Antarctic who comes across the remains of the camp in the movie.

You come across monsters and other people as things get increasingly worse. But that’s where it gets brilliant. You can only carry a couple things, and the weapon you have might not take out the monster that’s ambushing you, and changing weapons will happen while you are getting hurt badly. Also The Thing has a fear/trust system.

If you meet somebody, you don’t know if they’re a monster, and vice versa. They won’t follow orders if they’re afraid of you, so you have to earn trust by killing a monster, or giving them a weapon. You could give them your pistol, keep your flamethrower and go hunt monsters, but if they turn on you, you no longer have the weapons you need to kill them, because you have to shoot them before you burn them.

If you DON’T give them a weapon and they could turn on you and attack you. Even if they have a weapon, if they lose trust in you, you will end up attacked by humans AND aliens. Negotiating people becomes a full-time job…pretty much like real life.